Episode 4: Nancy Drew: The Series - Part 1

After a long break we're back! This will be a two parter, in the first part we discuss plot and major themes of Season 1 of the CW Nancy Drew series. Stay tuned for the second part next week where we will be diving into the characters, subplots, and predictions.

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Transcript

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Hi. Welcome back to episode four.

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We're going to be talking about The CW,
Nancy Drew Season one.

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Um, I don't really have a whole lot happen
recently.

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I mean, I got covid.

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We've been preparing
for my sister's graduation.

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That's about it for me.

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Yeah, we're keeping it short
we got a lot to talk about.

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You share your big things.

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I'm Lauren.

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Oh, yeah,

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I'm Nenya.

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I'm Gabe. I'm something.

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Perfect.

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Yeah.

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So have been preparing for the wedding.

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It's like 26 days now.

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So my Bachelorette party is this weekend.

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We've been doing, you know, getting our
getting my dress finished

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and we're doing hair and makeup trials
next week.

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And then.

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So it's my bachelorette this weekend.

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Next week is my fiance's brother's

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bachelor party, and then it's 4th of July
and then it's our wedding.

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So, woo, that's happening!

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so fast. Wow.

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It's so crazy. I know.

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It doesn't feel like it's that soon.

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I know, I know June went by really fast.

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I mean, we're only halfway through June,
but we've just.

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I'm so booked.

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Right?

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And so focused.

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Congrats. So excited for you.

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Thank you. But,
yeah, we've got 18 episodes

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of The CW, Nancy Drew, season
one to go through.

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So. Yeah, yeah, we gotta get started.

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Okay.

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So I kind of wrote

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a lot down from the pilot because a lot
happened in the pilot So much happened!

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That is - it's not my complaint,
but that is my biggest takeaway is that

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every single episode, every 5 minutes,
there is something important happens.

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They do not waste a single minute for fun.

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Frivolity, everything is like, Sorry guys,

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we have a lot of ground to cover
and only 18 episodes to do it.

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So we're moving, we're shaking.

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So much is going on.

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I actually did enjoy that.

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I like that
there is constantly so much going on.

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Um, and I thought they did,
they managed pacing really well.

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For how much they were juggling

Yeah I was NOT bored No.

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So I don't remember
if this is how it starts out,

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but pretty much the background for

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everything is in 2000
there's a girl, Lucy Sable.

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She was crowned Sea Queen.

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And on the night that she was crowned
Sea Queen,

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she suspiciously fell
from a cliff to her death.

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And then we flash.

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I think this is the beginning because then
we flash forward and it's 2018.

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Nancy has been crowned Sea Queen

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and she's in a graveyard with her friends.

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And they're like, "you know, you have to",
they're telling her to, like,

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put something on the grave on
I think Lucy Sable's grave, too.

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Like a ghost thing.

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A Weird thing.

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Weird, dumb kid pranks. Yeah, yeah.

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Weird things.

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Yeah.

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And she sees a ghost.

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And so when this happened, I was like,
this is so Nancy Drew, right?

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where you really question
Is it supernatural?

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Is it real? So I loved that

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and then we get a flash.

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She is a child and we see Nancy's parents

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digging up a chest in the backyard
in the middle of the night.

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You're like, okay, that's kind of sus.

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And then I think if I remember
right, we then go to present day.

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So Nancy,

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Bess, George and Ace all work at the claw.

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And while they're at the claw
at some point

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- 
And what is the claw?

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It's the restaurant its the restaurant
where they - it's George's restaurant,

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I guess a seaside restaurant
is probably important.

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They serve a lot of fish

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and nick shows up.

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I assume he shows up for Nancy.

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Nick slash Ned Yeah.

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Nick slash Ned. Sorry.
Yes, that's important.

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He shows up.

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They get some unexpected visitors

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banging on the door
and they're all like, Yo, we're closed.

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But George is like, Let them in.

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Suspicious looking men!

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Suspicious, scary.

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I thought they were like
mob bosses or something.

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I was like, What's going on?

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That's why I called Ryan Mob Dude

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the entire time in my notes
cause I could not remember his name.

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And I was like, He is a mob dude.

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I don't know.

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That's funny, so

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that's s a key

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point.

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A key factor is George
takes Ryan Hudson's and the groups

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or know she takes the order,
but she's taking care of them.

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Ryan Hudson's wife,
Tiffany, is out in the car

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and Nancy's
the one who brings Tiffany her food.

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And when she brings her her food,
Tiffany is like,

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can I have a glass of wine as well?

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And so Nancy goes to get a glass of wine
for her.

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Another key point of the scene is Nancy
in the beginning sets up her phone

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at the window facing the parking lot
because she wants to record the fireworks,

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because I think every year
her and her dad watch the fireworks.

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And so when Nancy goes back out

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with the glass of wine,
she finds Tiffany dead on the ground

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and she's kind of checking for a pulse,
trying to figure out what's going on.

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Go ahead. Nope. No, no, you're good.

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There was a power outage.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Oh, yes.

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So all the Lights in town and there's
a whole town celebration happening.

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But all the lights in town go out.

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And then in a flash of lightning, Nancy

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sees Tiffany dead on the ground

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and goes running up to her body

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on the ground next to her car.

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Yes. No, you're right. Yeah.

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Yeah. And I was just checking.
That's right.

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And as she's
checking, George, Bess, Nick, Ace

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all come out
and right as they are coming out

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or pretty much right after they come out,
the cops show up and Nancy is like

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standing over a dead body, looking
pretty sus.

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Also,
I think we should make a fair warning.

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Spoiler alerts.

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If you plan to watch this or haven't

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watched or something,
this might not be the episode for you

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because we will be talking
about everything.

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Yeah.

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Go watch the season and then come back.

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And then come back.

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We're here for you.

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Exactly.

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So, then we have Chief McGinnis, he's
questioning

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everybody, trying to figure it out.

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He's look he looks pissed.

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He came pissed off at the world.

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I was like, you know, I don't know.

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I just thought he was such a mood.

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I wrote down, A**hole cop like 1200 times

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for the first, like seven episodes.

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Bless his heart. Yeah.

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So he brings everybody in
except for Ace and Ryan Hudson.

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Ace surprised me.

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I was like, That's suspicious.

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Thank you.

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Like you were saying Ace is suspicious.

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That was kind of weird.

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Him not bringing Ryan's group

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in wasn't weird to me because I was like,
they seem like mob bosses, you know?

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Like, they're above above the law.

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So, like,
that wasn't weird but Ace is weird.

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I found that very confusing.

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I mean, I understand,
like, socially in the group,

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but at the same time I was like,
I'm sorry.

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These teens were not

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the only people to work
or who were in the area.

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They didn't know they were coming.

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Right. So

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why why
are we throwing fingers at them? But.

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But not ace anyway, right?

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No, I agree. Yeah.

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So he brings...

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yeah.

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He brings them to the station and
he's just like everyone looks suspicious.

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Like not only is everyone suspicious
because they were there,

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but suddenly you start hearing
all these things and you're like, Oh,

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so George has an alcoholic mother
who's very disorderly and causing

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havoc, and George is having to pick her
mom up from the station often,

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Bess is a shoplifter,
which she unintentionally confesses to.

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Right. They don't - he don't.
The cop doesn't even bring it up.

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She just, like, panics and admits
to being a shoplifter.

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Well, he,
so we find all of this because McGinniss

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is literally pointing fingers at the group
and being like, Right,

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okay, so we got an alcoholic mom,
we have a criminal.

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And when he says, Criminal.
Yeah, cause Nick has done hard time.

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Yeah,
he was talking about Nick's hard time.

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But Bess just 
that's right.

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admitted because she cracks under this
tiniest amount of pressure.

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I love Bess so much.

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We're going to talk about the characters
in a lot of depth later.

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I love Bess

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so much at all times.

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But yes, so Nick, he's done hard time
and we don't know what that's about.

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And then

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Bess, I think is like, well, what's Nancy?

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Like what's wrong with Nancy?

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And George is like,
she's the one who's been doing the cops

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job for so many years or whatever.

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And you're like,
that explains why this man came in pissed,

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he saw Nancy and was like, not not again.

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Yeah So he's pointing Fingers
I'm sorry,

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if an 18 year old girl is able - or boy,
fine whatever.

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If an 18 year old child

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is able to do a better job
than you and your department,

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I think that's like a concern for you
and your department.

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Don't be mad at the child.

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Be mad at your detectives
who clearly are not doing their job. Yes.

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Yeah.
I don't think you need to be mad at her.

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But Nancy also has the um

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ah um advantages.

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Privilege. Privilege isn't the right word.

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I don't know what the right word is,

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but she doesn't necessarily
have to follow things by the law.

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You know, like as much as it's good
and bad, the like the cops

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and the detectives are kind of like...they
have...

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She breaks into any house,
she finds any house she wanders by.

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She's like, hmm, that looks suspicious.

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I should probably go check it out.

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So she's willing to commit crimes

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to solve crimes.

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Right?

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Which

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that's, it's that's a whole other thing.

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But the cops essentially, like they kind
of have to play by the book, right?

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Because they want to prosecute.

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They would want to prosecute
if a crime is done.

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And they have to be careful

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because they don't want to make evidence
inadmissible and all of that.

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So she does have that leg up against them,
I would say.

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But yes, I yeah.

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And there's that one cop
where you're like,

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the golden retriever cop I'll call him
that, you know who I'm talking about

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who Nancy's always like talking...

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anyways bless his heart.

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so yeah Nancy leaves
she pulls out the lawyer card

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kind of and she's like,
Am I being charged with anything now?

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And they're like...no?

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Oh, right. Oh, this is another key note.

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I didn't write this down.

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So one of the cops, Karen,
one of the detectives.

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Karen.

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Karen was a close friend of Nancy's mom.

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And there's like there's
a whole bunch of tension there,

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but that will come back to that.

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So she's, like, trying to,
you know, sugar, not sugar, Nancy.

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I don't know. She's the one who's trying
to get information on Nancy.

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And Nancy's like,
I didn't do anything. I'm leaving.

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I'm out.

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She gets home,

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she checks her phone and remembers,
Oh, yeah, I recorded the fireworks.

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I might have gotten,

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you know, a hint of what happened
to Tiffany in her final moments.

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And it's creepy.

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I'll give it that.

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That was creepy.

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I was like, that's suspicious.

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We were talking earlier about

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how the ghost

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because we see a ghost behind Tiffany's

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body in the recording

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and the ghost reminds us

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a lot of kind of the lunging ghost
figure that happens in Midnight in Salem,

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the Nancy Drew video game, which came out
at the same time as this show.

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And we think that's just interesting.

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So literally

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all of this happens
in like the first 20 minutes.

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Oh, I know, right.

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Oh, that was like 15. Like, that was like.

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Yeah, this was. Really fast. So fast.

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And so any other show,
this would be the entire episode.

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Episode like Nancy would see her phone
real like she got a video of the ghost

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and I'd be looking into that,
looking off into the distance, being like,

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Oh my gosh.

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And then it would cut.
And then it would cut.

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End end From there, not this show.

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No, no, no.

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Yeah.
That doesn't even scratch the surface.

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Now the detective work starts.

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Right.

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And I remember that too.

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I was like, man, it must be.

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And it feels like a long time,
like not a bad way.

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But when that all happens,
it felt like you had watched a whole

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episode, and me and my dad were like,
Well, dang

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now I guess we gotta start the next one
but then it kept going.

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It just kept going.

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So Nancy goes to the claw,
she shows everyone,

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she shows them the recording, Bess
and Ace are like...

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that's a ghost.

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A ghost killed Tiffany.

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Nancy's like, What do you mean?

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George is like,

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peace, b*tches. anyway.

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And so they're like, okay, we,
we need to figure out what to do to help.

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Do we give the phone, like,
how do we clear our names?

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And so they start doing some brainstorming

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and talking.

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And I think some drama happens then,
but it wasn't really important.

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So I kind of was like, whatever.

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And Nancy

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and Nancy had given up detective work,
and then she's like, You know what?

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I'm just going to go break into someone's
house. After her mom died.

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She stopped doing detective

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things.

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Yeah.

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I was going to talk about them

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until we talked about the characters,
but yes, that's why she stopped.

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And so, yeah, she was like,
I'm just going to go break into Ryan

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Hudson's house,
you know, seems - seems legit.

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He's a mob dude, she's fine, fine.

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I don't write Haha
I know right? like what?

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She finds a necklace of Tiffany's
in like a secret compartment.

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She finds a necklace and a note.

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And as she finds it, there was like
a silent security alarm that was tripped.

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And security shows up,

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and you're like, There's no way
she's getting out of this one.

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But she does, debatably Ned saves her.

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Nick/Ned

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kind of, maybe, he helps

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and so they end up back at the claw

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because um,

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Nancy is like,
well, George is going to know what this is

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because it's
sea related and George comes from

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like a, a sea family,
I guess you could say

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I don't know what you call it
a fishing family.

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And it turns out

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the necklace is a mariner's charm,
which means it has a secret compartment,

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and in the secret compartment,
they find a seahorse.

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That I think is like one of the things
that's on the Sea

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Queen Crown, which is why they're like,
Oh my gosh.

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And then

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was there an address?

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I don't think there's an address.

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Is that how they get to the Lilac Hotel?

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Yes, there's an address

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or there's
the name of a medium or something.

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That. Right.

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Yes, that might be what it is.

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There's something
they get something that leads.

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Yes, it is.

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It must be the name of a medium
or something. Yeah.

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And they and they're like
oh we know who that where that person is.

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Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah.

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And so then

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I have literally wrote some drama ensues.

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Drama, I think it's the, It's like drama
between Ned and Nancy, Nick and Nancy and

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and whatever.

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And it basically Carson's like, Nancy,
you stay away.

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Away from Nick.

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He's trouble. Nancy's like,

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No, sir.

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And somehow she's like,
Oh, you must have been Nick's lawyer.

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And so her dad leaves, she goes up, breaks

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into his filing cabinet

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to dig out Nick's file

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and realizes
that Nick was convicted of manslaughter

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after the testimony of a key witness
who so happened to be Tiffany Hudson.

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So that gives Ned motive.

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Motive to murder.

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Because right up to now,
we haven't had any motives for murder.

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But we will have plenty For anyone really.

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By the time this episode ends.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So she's just, like, reeling from this.

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And like, 2 minutes later,
Nick rolls up, ready to take Nancy's

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mom's broken down car to try and fix it,
and she's like, Why can't you?

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Because he works in a garage Yeah.

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I'm just going to act like everything's
okay.

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But like, she's been real sus.

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She's been sus.

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And so then because of that,
this makes her start actually analyzing

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everyone who's there at the crime scene
and what was everybody's motives.

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She kind of gets like warmed up
to detective work again.

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Like the first bit, she was just like,
Oh, this is not what I'm about.

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I'm not doing this anymore.

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And then as soon as she breaks
in and starts like,

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like digging into everyone's stuff,
all of a sudden

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she just kind of gets a taste for it
again, which is fun for her.

00;17;52;05 - 00;17;52;27
Yeah.

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Yes, exactly.

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And so yeah.

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So then it I think it pretty much they
they do that it cuts to George

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has gone to visit Ryan Hudson at his house
and you're like that's interesting and.

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That's where I started writing
what in The Gossip Girl is this?

00;18;11;06 - 00;18;12;01
Right?

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This teenage girl

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going to hook up with mob dude,

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the husband of the murdered woman.

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Yeah.

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And you're like,
okay, does anyone else got motive?

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Just keep rolling them out.

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But yeah, it's like literally,

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bam, bam, back to back, just motives
There is an Ariana song,

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There is an Ariana Grande song playing
during this montage of George

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going to Ryan Hudson, and then we see Ace

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making a video recording.

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Yeah.

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George and Ryan Hudson together
and reporting back to a policeman.

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Right? Yeah.

00;18;49;19 - 00;18;52;02
I think we see that you sent it to Chief
McGuinness.

00;18;52;02 - 00;18;54;05
Yeah. Yeah. And then.
And you're like, what?

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And then it flash. Yeah.

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And then it flashes to bess.

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Who is holding the missing...

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We talk to Nick first I thought,

00;19;03;00 - 00;19;04;09
I think we end on bess.

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I thought it went to Nick.

00;19;05;16 - 00;19;06;05
Oh, yeah.

00;19;06;05 - 00;19;11;16
No, you're right, Nick is then working
on the mom's car, opens up a compartment

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and pulls out a package, and we're like,
Yeah, okay.

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And then it flashes to Bess
who is - Wait but the side note is.

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He also has this face where he looks like
is he going to tell Nancy

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or is he not going to tell Nancy?

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And like, he kind of looks like he knows
what it might be and that it was planned.

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Oh yeah it definitely wasn't a surprise
that he opened it.

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Yeah.

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He definitely was just like yup,
I know what this is.

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Anyway. Beep Beep Boop. Yeah.

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And then and then

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we see Bess happily
looking at the diamond ring

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that the murdered woman had
that was missing when her body was found.

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And it's extra suspicious

00;19;53;24 - 00;19;57;17
because you get the lie of she's
supposed to be staying with her rich aunt.

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And that's part of the Marvins.

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But she's not.

00;20;00;27 - 00;20;05;09
She's actually living alone in a van
because it's like super sus.

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Not only does she have the ring,
but she lied about where she's living.

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But yeah.

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So all four.

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Well,

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yeah.

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George Motive

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and then Bess who stole

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and then Nick who has the package

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and then Aces is doing the video.

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So all of those are happening over
this musical montage.

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Which is.

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So bananas.

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And Ace maybe doesn't
necessarily have like a motive,

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but he's definitely suspicious
and it definitely seems like

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he could end up with a motive based off
of how everything is kind of yeah.

00;20;46;14 - 00;20;49;24
Going, Yeah, somebody the point is he's

00;20;50;04 - 00;20;53;15
funneling information somewhere
and we don't know why.

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Yeah. And right.

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And then because the cop's a dick,
you're like, maybe he's a dirty cop.

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That was something that went through

00;21;00;09 - 00;21;02;25
my mind is like,
is that why he's giving information?

00;21;02;25 - 00;21;06;03
Yeah, I thought that's
where the episode would end

00;21;06;18 - 00;21;09;25
was after that,
but then it kept going, you know,

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I don't remember how she ends up in the.

00;21;13;13 - 00;21;14;02
Yeah, yeah.

00;21;14;02 - 00;21;18;20
The power goes out again, again
and she's like, wtf bro.

00;21;18;20 - 00;21;21;08
And I'm like wtf
why is the power out again.

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The attic door drops open.

00;21;23;09 - 00;21;24;15
That scared me.

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I jumped, I was not expecting that.

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So the stairs from the attic just yanked
down on that by themselves in the dark?

00;21;32;25 - 00;21;36;04
Yeah. Yeah. Nancy is like, fabulous.

00;21;36;04 - 00;21;39;17
Let's go see what's up there,
which is insane.

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Because why wouldn't you?

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You know.

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I would not.

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I would leave the house.

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Yeah,
I think that's why I'm not Nancy Drew.

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Well, you know, that's ok, you're sweetie
and that that's just as important.

00;21;55;09 - 00;21;55;21
Yeah.

00;21;55;21 - 00;21;58;03
So she she goes up there

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and some reason she's like,
I'm going to peel away the wallpaper.

00;22;01;24 - 00;22;04;07
Part of it was already ripped.

00;22;04;07 - 00;22;05;08
Oh, that's right.

00;22;05;08 - 00;22;08;15
So she sees this scrawled writing

00;22;09;17 - 00;22;11;12
behind the wallpaper.

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And so she just starts
ripping the wallpaper away

00;22;14;25 - 00;22;18;16
and just reads this whole message
a children's rhyme.

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And so then a children's choir starts
singing

00;22;21;22 - 00;22;24;27
the children's rhyme jokes

00;22;24;27 - 00;22;27;09
about dead Lucy.

00;22;27;09 - 00;22;31;01
Yeah, yeah, yes, the Lucy Sable rhyme.

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And then I think it like it
pans over to the trunk, doesn't it?

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And you're like, Wait, that's the trunk
we saw at the beginning of the episode

00;22;40;09 - 00;22;43;24
that her parents are digging up
and you're like, Surely you must open it

00;22;43;24 - 00;22;48;25
like we've committed this far
and there's a bloody dress in it.

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And when she's looking at it, it

00;22;52;10 - 00;22;55;27
I think the camera shot, if I remember
right, is she's looking at it.

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She set down her flashlight and we're
looking at her looking down at the trunk.

00;23;00;25 - 00;23;01;11
Right.

00;23;01;11 - 00;23;07;06
And you see Lucy's sable in the back
and you're like Her ghost, yeah

00;23;08;20 - 00;23;10;09
This can't be real, right?

00;23;10;09 - 00;23;13;05
This episode rocked me
because I was like, It's so

00;23;13;05 - 00;23;16;09
Nancy in that it's
the questioning of the supernatural.

00;23;16;09 - 00;23;18;28
But then I was like, that going so heavy.

00;23;19;11 - 00;23;22;29
Surely the supernatural isn't
going to be real, right?

00;23;24;05 - 00;23;26;08
Joke's on you.

00;23;26;08 - 00;23;27;07
The joke.

00;23;27;07 - 00;23;29;28
The joke really was on me,
like, for so long.

00;23;29;28 - 00;23;31;00
I was so convinced.

00;23;31;00 - 00;23;36;01
I was like, surely there will end up
being a logical explanation because never

00;23;37;18 - 00;23;39;12
has Nancy, I feel like,

00;23;39;12 - 00;23;42;19
ever dabbled so far, I'm

00;23;43;00 - 00;23;45;17
not saying paranormal can't be logical.

00;23;45;17 - 00;23;50;03
Just that usually you're thinking like,
oh, it's like the Scooby Doo, right?

00;23;50;03 - 00;23;52;24
It's never really a monster,
a human did it.

00;23;53;13 - 00;23;57;07
Except in the eighties when they all of a
sudden had a real monsters

00;23;58;12 - 00;24;02;12
and then went immediately away from that
for reasons.

00;24;02;12 - 00;24;04;15
True, true.

00;24;04;15 - 00;24;08;07
But you know what I mean But yeah, so.

00;24;08;24 - 00;24;12;06
So Nancy has now found the bloody dress

00;24;12;06 - 00;24;17;12
of the murdered girl
murdered the suspicious death girl

00;24;18;19 - 00;24;19;22
in her parents.

00;24;19;22 - 00;24;22;28
Did she does she make that connection now?

00;24;23;03 - 00;24;24;06
Like, does she know.

00;24;24;06 - 00;24;28;19
The medium told her when that
when the girls went to the medium

00;24;29;10 - 00;24;30;04
that was in the locket.

00;24;30;04 - 00;24;32;20
Did they go to the medium
that day?
The medium Yes.

00;24;33;16 - 00;24;35;21
Oh the medium had told them to

00;24;35;21 - 00;24;38;04
or the medium channeled Dead Lucy,

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no she channeled

00;24;41;07 - 00;24;42;00
somebody.

00;24;42;00 - 00;24;45;20
I think she channeled dead lucy
and it said find

00;24;46;17 - 00;24;49;03
my dress or something like that.

00;24;49;03 - 00;24;50;03
You might be right.

00;24;50;03 - 00;24;51;28
You know,
you can just call her Lucy, right?

00;24;51;28 - 00;24;53;16
You don't have to make her remember.

00;24;53;16 - 00;24;55;06
She's dead every time.

00;24;55;06 - 00;24;57;23
She's called Dead Lucy,
that's like the whole thing.

00;24;58;16 - 00;25;00;19
I know, but I feel like it's so sad.

00;25;00;19 - 00;25;02;20
Like, every time

00;25;02;26 - 00;25;05;25
she hears about herself,
it's a reminder that she's dead.

00;25;06;22 - 00;25;07;23
Bless her heart.

00;25;07;23 - 00;25;08;17
But yes.

00;25;08;17 - 00;25;09;05
Yeah.

00;25;09;05 - 00;25;12;14
So that is the entire pilot, which is.

00;25;12;14 - 00;25;15;23
It was like three episodes.
So crazy in One.

00;25;16;00 - 00;25;18;28
It was wild
I also wanted to highlight that

00;25;19;26 - 00;25;22;07
the medium who they go see,

00;25;22;08 - 00;25;25;13
who the dead woman's locket or whatever.

00;25;26;07 - 00;25;26;17
Yeah.

00;25;27;16 - 00;25;29;28
So we find we find out from the medium

00;25;30;12 - 00;25;32;17
that the dead woman, Tiffany,

00;25;33;05 - 00;25;35;13
was being haunted by Lucy.

00;25;36;04 - 00;25;39;06
And everyone was just like, Oh, my gosh,
the woman who plays

00;25;39;06 - 00;25;44;07
the medium in the pilot is Pamela
Sue Martin, who played Nancy

00;25;44;07 - 00;25;48;28
Drew in the 1970s, Hardy Boys
slash Nancy Drew Mysteries series.

00;25;48;29 - 00;25;51;02
Oh, my gosh. That's awesome.

00;25;51;02 - 00;25;53;22
So I didn't even know that. Yeah,
that was.

00;25;54;23 - 00;25;55;25
She looked familiar.

00;25;55;25 - 00;25;57;21
And so I had to go and look her up.

00;25;57;21 - 00;26;00;04
But I think that's so much fun

00;26;00;04 - 00;26;04;08
because that is
was one of the classic Nancy Drew series.

00;26;04;08 - 00;26;08;20
And they brought her back
to be in the pilot of this show.

00;26;08;21 - 00;26;12;03
I don't I don't think we see her again
in the rest of the

00;26;12;19 - 00;26;15;06
series
or in the rest of season one anyway.

00;26;15;07 - 00;26;19;03
But it was really cool
that they brought her in for this.

00;26;19;03 - 00;26;20;26
It is also an awesome cameo.

00;26;20;26 - 00;26;23;17
I, I wish I had known that. I had no idea.

00;26;23;26 - 00;26;24;09
Yeah.

00;26;25;12 - 00;26;28;13
And we
learn so much about the relationship

00;26;28;13 - 00;26;30;21
with all of these characters
as well in the pilot.

00;26;31;01 - 00;26;34;05
Like during the seance
that the three girls

00;26;34;05 - 00;26;37;28
are holding hands with the medium
and Bess and George are holding hands

00;26;37;28 - 00;26;41;29
and Bess just leans over and she goes,
Do you moisturize to George.

00;26;41;29 - 00;26;46;05
And it's just so it's such a good way
to show

00;26;46;16 - 00;26;50;27
that they're kind of two personalities
just kind of battling it out.

00;26;50;27 - 00;26;55;07
I have so many notes about this,
including Nancy is such a disaster

00;26;55;07 - 00;26;58;10
human and I love her.

00;26;58;10 - 00;27;00;03
I also was comparing to Scooby Doo.

00;27;00;03 - 00;27;03;14
I was saying Nancy is Fred,
Bess is Daphne, George is Velma,

00;27;03;14 - 00;27;06;09
the long haired boy (Because
I can't remember Ace's name) is Scooby.

00;27;06;17 - 00;27;10;28
But then Nick was also Velma,
so no one's shaggy in that case but.

00;27;10;28 - 00;27;12;17
Yeah, so.

00;27;12;17 - 00;27;18;17
And then Would
you say Scooby is smarter than Shaggy?

00;27;18;17 - 00;27;22;16
Sometimes yeah Yeah I guess I could see
Ace being Scooby He's just such a golden

00;27;22;16 - 00;27;29;06
retriever of the group In the beginning
his little himbo self In the Beginning.

00;27;29;06 - 00;27;31;27
I was like He is, he really is.

00;27;32;01 - 00;27;33;15
That's why I was like.

00;27;33;15 - 00;27;36;16
It's so strange
when he starts becoming an actual person.

00;27;37;22 - 00;28;15;10

So my entire issue

00;28;15;10 - 00;28;20;18
with ace is that he spends

00;28;20;18 - 00;28;24;05
so much of his time
being bland with no personality

00;28;24;05 - 00;28;24;08
and then as soon as there's
something where they're like

00;28;24;08 - 00;28;24;12
oh we don't know how to do this, he's like
oh yeah, I'm actually a tech wizard,

00;28;24;12 - 00;28;24;15
oh yeah actually
I know exactly how to do this,

00;28;24;15 - 00;28;24;17
oh yeah I'm working,
like he has no personality

00;28;24;17 - 00;28;24;20
and they need to fix something
or do something it's just

00;28;24;20 - 00;28;24;24
and so I felt that was so suspicious
but I think it's actually just a writers

00;28;24;24 - 00;28;24;28
weakness where they're like we don't
actually know how to solve the problem

00;28;24;28 - 00;28;25;02
so they're like we'll just have ace
be able to do it.

00;28;25;02 - 00;28;27;20
I think it makes more sense once
you start actually learning more about him

00;28;28;07 - 00;28;32;28
I think it makes more sense That,
but I definitely get what you're saying

00;28;32;28 - 00;28;55;10
and I think they had to give a reason
for why they did that.

00;28;55;10 - 00;28;55;23
I think it's not in a the beginning
because they didn't

00;28;55;23 - 00;28;55;26
intend for it to happen
and then they were like ok

00;28;56;13 - 00;28;57;17
do we, do we know who his dad is?
we know who his dad is in season 1, right?

00;28;57;17 - 00;29;02;27
uh, we find out midway through, yeah

00;29;03;22 - 00;29;08;09
Yeah, yeah, his dad's a cop.

00;29;09;08 - 00;29;10;00
Right?

00;29;10;00 - 00;29;12;16
So I feel like some of the things
he learns

00;29;12;24 - 00;29;16;16
some of the things he knows Makes sense
especially because he sees so.

00;29;16;16 - 00;29;20;16
Much of his time just being, like,
bland with no personality.

00;29;20;17 - 00;29;23;20
I feel like he gets obsessed
soon as they are somewhat obsessive,

00;29;23;27 - 00;29;25;24
like he seems like
he. Knows how to do this.

00;29;25;24 - 00;29;27;19
He's just like, Oh, and he worries.

00;29;27;19 - 00;29;29;08
When he's actually something hooked.

00;29;29;08 - 00;29;31;22
Yeah, I'm actually a tech wizard.
I'm like. Oh, yeah.

00;29;31;28 - 00;29;34;01
Actually, I know exactly how to do this.

00;29;34;08 - 00;29;34;28
Oh, yeah, we're.

00;29;34;28 - 00;29;36;06
In a lot of know.

00;29;36;06 - 00;29;39;14
Like he
he has no personality and then yeah.

00;29;39;18 - 00;29;40;26
I can see where you would.

00;29;40;26 - 00;29;42;10
Think something's you something it's.

00;29;42;10 - 00;29;44;00
Just and I definitely agree.

00;29;44;00 - 00;29;44;24
I felt like this.

00;29;44;24 - 00;29;48;15
Character has but I think especially as
the right it's just it's not.

00;29;48;15 - 00;29;51;25
Like we don't know how to solve this
problem so we're just going to be able to.

00;29;51;25 - 00;29;54;05
Do it.

00;29;54;05 - 00;29;59;20
We find out, you know, like, oh, he's
working with the cops and he had a prior

00;29;59;20 - 00;30;02;29
relationship with this person
and he's somewhat connected to this.

00;30;02;29 - 00;30;07;08
And then he just doesn't
he's not telling anyone about this.

00;30;07;08 - 00;30;12;15
He's just holding so much back
and keeping so many secrets and

00;30;13;20 - 00;30;15;11
that, yeah,

00;30;15;19 - 00;30;16;27
they all have secrets.

00;30;16;27 - 00;30;21;18
But his secrets are somewhat innocuous
and so I don't know why he's keeping it

00;30;22;19 - 00;30;26;22
anyway, there's a lot of secrets
I think it revealed in this season.

00;30;28;17 - 00;30;31;06
I feel like he is he's

00;30;31;06 - 00;30;34;27
not dumb, but I feel like he just doesn't
he doesn't have common sense.

00;30;35;08 - 00;30;39;03
So I don't think he holds the secrets
intentionally and that he's like,

00;30;39;03 - 00;30;40;22
I'm going to hold this a secret.

00;30;40;22 - 00;30;43;12
I feel like there's a lot of times
where things just unintentionally

00;30;43;12 - 00;30;47;05
a captain is like, Oh,
I guess maybe I should share this.

00;30;47;05 - 00;30;48;23
And you're like, Yes, yeah.

00;30;48;23 - 00;30;49;09
But the.

00;30;49;09 - 00;30;50;06
Second.

00;30;50;06 - 00;30;55;04
One, yeah, he because he is like he is

00;30;55;04 - 00;30;58;29
the golden retriever until all of a sudden
he's like a German shepherd.

00;30;59;17 - 00;31;00;09
Yeah. And

00;31;01;13 - 00;31;04;18
it's yeah, I just had a lot of questions.

00;31;04;18 - 00;31;08;14
I was telling Gabe earlier that
every pretty much every single episode

00;31;08;23 - 00;31;12;17
through there, I was like,
Ace is going to be the bad guy.

00;31;12;18 - 00;31;14;10
Ace is going to be the murderer.

00;31;14;10 - 00;31;17;12
I'm just so convinced
that Ace has something to do with it

00;31;17;12 - 00;31;20;17
because I don't trust him at all, because

00;31;20;17 - 00;31;24;14
he's not places where he should be.

00;31;24;14 - 00;31;27;02
He's lying about different things.

00;31;27;02 - 00;31;30;28
He is way too much knowledge
about specific events

00;31;30;28 - 00;31;34;21
or how to do things
and just knows too much

00;31;35;25 - 00;31;37;25
for from my understanding

00;31;38;29 - 00;31;41;14
about things that I'm like,
why would he know about this?

00;31;41;29 - 00;31;43;16
Like it's I don't know.

00;31;43;16 - 00;31;47;12
And maybe and I
hope they fix that in later or give it.

00;31;47;26 - 00;31;50;13
You're saying they give it
some sort of explanation, but.

00;31;51;23 - 00;31;54;08
I don't
know if they give it an explanation.

00;31;54;08 - 00;31;59;22
It's more of just like I guess for me,
as I learned more about him, I saw him

00;31;59;28 - 00;32;01;21
more as you worked as a character,

00;32;01;21 - 00;32;05;00
and then to me
it was more viable, like I wasn't.

00;32;05;12 - 00;32;07;22
That's yeah. Strange.

00;32;08;19 - 00;32;12;09
It felt like they forgot about him
until he was needed.

00;32;12;27 - 00;32;13;22
I don't know.

00;32;14;03 - 00;32;16;03
It's kind of where I saw it.

00;32;16;03 - 00;32;19;02
I just kept forgetting he was a character.

00;32;19;02 - 00;32;21;22
Yeah, because he also gets left
behind a lot too.

00;32;21;22 - 00;32;25;15
That's why I thought he was so suspicious,
because he was going.

00;32;25;29 - 00;32;29;16
To choose to stay behind, though
they just kept leaving him

00;32;29;16 - 00;32;30;21
behind there, like because.

00;32;30;21 - 00;32;34;01
He was a bland, useless personality.

00;32;34;13 - 00;32;37;22
So or that's what I felt
he was portraying.

00;32;37;22 - 00;32;40;04
And so they were like, Oh,
we don't actually need him.

00;32;40;05 - 00;32;41;25
Or like,
you can stay in the car or whatever

00;32;41;25 - 00;32;45;14
and then they go do something and something bad would happen and I'd be like, Yeah,

00;32;46;14 - 00;32;47;19
you left us alone.

00;32;47;19 - 00;32;51;28
So now he can go around
and muck things up for you. Duh.

00;32;52;00 - 00;32;54;11
Why is he always getting left behind?

00;32;55;21 - 00;32;55;29
Right.

00;32;55;29 - 00;32;59;16
And then bad things happen where
the rest of the group is all together.

00;32;59;26 - 00;33;01;24
So who's doing the bad things?
I don't know.

00;33;01;24 - 00;33;04;02
The person who knows everything.

00;33;04;02 - 00;33;07;02
Because you don't tell them everything
and then never include him in anything.

00;33;07;10 - 00;33;10;29
And he has connections to the cops
and a variety of other people

00;33;10;29 - 00;33;12;02
and is lying about it.

00;33;12;02 - 00;33;14;10
The Gillian things, I don't know.

00;33;15;03 - 00;33;18;18
Anyway, so I was firmly convinced it was a

00;33;18;18 - 00;33;20;06
that's funny. Anyway.

00;33;20;06 - 00;33;22;27
I felt like it would have been too easy

00;33;22;27 - 00;33;25;10
in the beginning for it
to be any of the five.

00;33;26;12 - 00;33;30;17
Like I just felt like I felt like
they all had to be red herrings

00;33;31;17 - 00;33;32;01
and see.

00;33;32;01 - 00;33;35;21
And I thought ace was

00;33;36;22 - 00;33;37;18
just,

00;33;38;04 - 00;33;41;22
I thought he would he was taken out of it
so early that I was like,

00;33;42;02 - 00;33;44;14
they clearly don't want us to think of him

00;33;44;23 - 00;33;46;27
as a suspicious person.

00;33;47;29 - 00;33;49;28
I felt like they were trying to, like,

00;33;49;28 - 00;33;52;23
just be like,
Nope, there's no way he's suspicious.

00;33;53;02 - 00;33;54;26
Anyway.

00;33;54;26 - 00;33;56;26
And then they add
in so many other characters

00;33;56;26 - 00;34;01;07
in other pieces and whatever that I,
I was just so convinced it was

00;34;03;11 - 00;34;06;24
one of the five who actually did do it.

00;34;06;24 - 00;34;12;23
And we brought in a whole bunch of red
herrings that were connected or whatever.

00;34;12;23 - 00;34;14;02
I mean, it's fair

00;34;14;02 - 00;34;17;26
to be fair, in the pilot, you pretty much
see the gambit of the cast.

00;34;17;26 - 00;34;22;16
I think you, me, pretty much
every single person who will be important,

00;34;22;16 - 00;34;25;12
who will be a part of the story
and who is in the season.

00;34;25;23 - 00;34;29;09
In the first episode, there might be,
I don't think a couple people.

00;34;29;09 - 00;34;30;25
When do we meet?

00;34;30;25 - 00;34;34;17
I don't see no,
we don't meet on but like there's,

00;34;34;28 - 00;34;37;14
there's like two or three
I don't think we see Owen.

00;34;37;21 - 00;34;41;08
I don't remember
if we actually see Everett or Celia.

00;34;41;19 - 00;34;45;05
Mm. But pretty much like you get

00;34;46;12 - 00;34;48;13
everyone in that first.

00;34;48;13 - 00;34;50;10
Yeah. Pilot.

00;34;50;10 - 00;34;52;22
I thought honestly,
I thought it was probably

00;34;52;22 - 00;34;54;16
one of the better pilots I've ever seen.

00;34;54;16 - 00;34;56;19
Like, I was like you.

00;34;56;19 - 00;35;01;07
You gave us a lot of information,
and it wasn't in a boring way.

00;35;01;07 - 00;35;02;12
Like, I didn't feel like you were

00;35;02;12 - 00;35;05;29
just giving me information
for the sake of giving it to me.

00;35;06;15 - 00;35;08;24
That music like it also.

00;35;08;24 - 00;35;11;13
Yeah. Was crazy.

00;35;11;13 - 00;35;16;02
The one where it reveals
that little piece of each person's lives.

00;35;16;02 - 00;35;17;22
I was like, What?

00;35;17;22 - 00;35;22;20
What's happening right here
is all it all felt relevant.

00;35;22;20 - 00;35;25;09
It didn't feel rushed. Like, I felt

00;35;26;10 - 00;35;27;02
I felt good.

00;35;27;02 - 00;35;28;22
I was excited. Like that hooked me.

00;35;28;22 - 00;35;32;00
I was like,
this is a really pilot because I've seen

00;35;32;15 - 00;35;35;17
I've seen some pretty

00;35;35;17 - 00;35;39;20
shoddy pilot episodes that then, like
the rest of the show was great.

00;35;39;20 - 00;35;41;06
And you're like, What happened here?

00;35;41;06 - 00;35;44;23
Yeah, this
I think they had a strong first episode.

00;35;45;08 - 00;35;45;18
Okay,

00;35;46;20 - 00;35;49;15
so this is the major spoilers part.

00;35;49;15 - 00;35;51;28
Yeah, this is the major
spoilers are for sure.

00;35;51;28 - 00;35;52;18
Sure.

00;35;53;18 - 00;35;55;15
I think the first big thing

00;35;55;15 - 00;35;59;18
which was kind of obvious
was that somehow in some form

00;35;59;18 - 00;36;02;24
or fashion, Lucy Sables Death and Tiffany
Hudson's

00;36;02;24 - 00;36;05;00
death were connected.

00;36;05;26 - 00;36;07;25
18 years apart or whatever.

00;36;07;25 - 00;36;09;13
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;36;09;13 - 00;36;10;25
18 years apart.

00;36;10;25 - 00;36;13;05
And that's like that's the big thing.

00;36;13;05 - 00;36;13;17
I would say.

00;36;13;17 - 00;36;18;23
That's the whole over
arching arc of season one

00;36;18;23 - 00;36;22;02
and like that's the question
and what we solve by the end of it.

00;36;22;02 - 00;36;25;15
And Nancy's the one who basically puts
that together, Nancy,

00;36;25;23 - 00;36;28;09
because she sees the ghost
and because she's

00;36;28;28 - 00;36;30;29
otherwise of privy to that,

00;36;32;27 - 00;36;35;20
she's the one who really says,

00;36;35;20 - 00;36;38;07
now we have to solve

00;36;38;07 - 00;36;42;08
how Lucy died in order to understand
why Tiffany died.

00;36;42;19 - 00;36;45;05
She 100% was just like,
No, these two are linked

00;36;45;05 - 00;36;48;03
and no one else would believe
her for the longest time. 
Yeah.

00;36;49;03 - 00;36;52;20
Yes. And definitely, much to the chagrin
and frustration

00;36;52;20 - 00;36;56;04
of everyone else, you know, like just fricken leave Lucy alone.

00;36;56;16 - 00;37;00;13
Like she knew she's spot on.

00;37;00;13 - 00;37;03;11
She was. Then wanted. So, like, you know.

00;37;03;20 - 00;37;05;02
That's true. That's true.

00;37;05;02 - 00;37;07;07
But like I mean so were George and Bess

00;37;08;01 - 00;37;12;24
Not by Lucy though

00;37;12;24 - 00;37;15;14
Oh, you're right. I guess that was all.

00;37;15;14 - 00;37;17;13
Tiffany Mm hmm.

00;37;17;13 - 00;37;18;12
Yeah.

00;37;19;09 - 00;37;20;01
Yeah.

00;37;20;01 - 00;37;23;01
Okay,
so then I kind of did subsequent points

00;37;23;10 - 00;37;27;15
that all led us to the conclusion of why
they're connected, how we get there.

00;37;27;26 - 00;37;31;09
So then, then subsequent episode

00;37;31;24 - 00;37;34;11
of the pilot. Um,

00;37;34;11 - 00;37;37;27
the big takeaway from that was there

00;37;37;27 - 00;37;41;24
the Hudsons were trying to cover up
the autopsy, something was sus

00;37;42;12 - 00;37;45;10
they were, they were ruling it
a natural cause of death.

00;37;45;10 - 00;37;49;00
You're like, why so Nancy, being Nancy, breaks in

00;37;49;00 - 00;37;51;08
and gets a vial of Tiffany's blood

00;37;52;01 - 00;37;54;02
and sends it to an old chemist friend.

00;37;54;08 - 00;37;58;01
And then through that, later on,
eventually we learn that Tiffany

00;37;58;10 - 00;38;01;06
was, in fact, poisoned. And

00;38;02;08 - 00;38;04;09
another side note, subsequent

00;38;04;15 - 00;38;09;12
to that, we also eventually learn the vial of
poison used to poison her.

00;38;09;20 - 00;38;14;02
Was from police evidence
from a different case.

00;38;14;10 - 00;38;20;09
Also in episode two, Nancy finds out
that George is sleeping with Ryan Hudson.

00;38;20;09 - 00;38;22;12
Yeah, yeah.

00;38;23;03 - 00;38;26;18
I feel like that's more of a character
thing than necessarily a point.

00;38;26;18 - 00;38;28;21
Like it is a point,
but it's more like - I dunno

00;38;28;21 - 00;38;31;17
But yes, that is true. Yes.

00;38;31;17 - 00;38;36;15
Um, I think another kind of key thing

00;38;36;15 - 00;38;40;06
that this is also like overarching
into all of the seasons is

00;38;41;07 - 00;38;43;21
Carson becomes Ryan Hudson's lawyer.

00;38;43;21 - 00;38;47;18
But the reason why that is so important
is you hear

00;38;47;18 - 00;38;50;21
all these implications of
he used to work with the Hudson's.

00;38;50;21 - 00;38;52;24
He was like the Hudson's dog.

00;38;52;24 - 00;38;55;02
Fixer. Like, you know, the fixer.

00;38;56;03 - 00;38;56;24
Yeah.

00;38;56;24 - 00;39;01;04
And so that was a big thing,
I think, and leads

00;39;01;04 - 00;39;04;27
to a bunch of things that I think
we'll talk about with characters.

00;39;06;02 - 00;39;09;11
George's Bucket
and way, way in the beginning

00;39;09;11 - 00;39;11;20
when she kicks are bucket over
it turn to blood

00;39;12;06 - 00;39;14;07
and this means
she won't live out the year.

00;39;14;12 - 00;39;17;04
Yeah and this was like huge foreshadowing

00;39;17;19 - 00;39;20;21
that was like well foreshadowing that like,
you know,

00;39;21;21 - 00;39;25;11
so many things are happening and you're
like, is, is George going to die?

00;39;25;11 - 00;39;26;28
Like, what's going on here?

00;39;26;28 - 00;39;29;14
So the bucket thing,
a little context for that.

00;39;31;06 - 00;39;34;23
The town basically has a little ritual

00;39;34;23 - 00;39;38;23
and this is a fishing town
basically in, where? Maine?

00;39;38;23 - 00;39;40;28
Yeah.
Something like that. Yeah, I think so.

00;39;41;15 - 00;39;45;28
And so they have a tradition
of putting a bucket of seawater out

00;39;46;06 - 00;39;50;14
by your front door on this specific.

00;39;50;26 - 00;39;52;04
I don't know if it's a solstice

00;39;52;04 - 00;39;55;03
or something like that,
some specific night every year.

00;39;55;12 - 00;39;56;25
And so it's just a tradition.

00;39;56;25 - 00;39;59;24
And so then in the morning
you go out and kick the bucket.

00;40;01;05 - 00;40;02;23
And if the bucket has turned

00;40;02;23 - 00;40;06;16
red, that means that you're going to die
within the year.

00;40;06;20 - 00;40;09;24
And it's, you know,
just kind of a silly tradition, whatever.

00;40;09;24 - 00;40;11;12
And most people don't take it too
seriously.

00;40;11;12 - 00;40;15;04
But yes, but George, this year
her bucket is red.

00;40;16;09 - 00;40;17;10
Yeah.

00;40;17;10 - 00;40;20;12
And an ace sees her washing it up.

00;40;21;15 - 00;40;21;28
Yeah.

00;40;21;28 - 00;40;25;27
I'm going to keep doing this
because I have so many notes on everything

00;40;25;27 - 00;40;30;28
that is suspicious about Ace
and why I'm so angry by the ending.

00;40;30;29 - 00;40;32;08
That's funny.

00;40;32;08 - 00;40;33;17
That's fun

00;40;37;12 - 00;40;38;19
rest in peace ace

00;40;38;19 - 00;40;41;08
Yeah, but I feel like George is like,

00;40;42;15 - 00;40;43;07
well, get to it.

00;40;43;07 - 00;40;45;11
But like, she has so much sh*t happen to her.

00;40;45;11 - 00;40;47;09
Like, I think
way more than the other characters.

00;40;47;09 - 00;40;51;20
Like her life is in peril way more times
and that's like.

00;40;51;21 - 00;40;52;29
That's like foreshadowing.

00;40;52;29 - 00;40;54;22
Like I felt that was huge foreshadowing.

00;40;54;22 - 00;40;57;03
And like, she definitely has cause I.

00;40;57;03 - 00;41;00;14
I loved that because they, they had told

00;41;00;14 - 00;41;03;18
us, hey, this means she's going to die
within the year.

00;41;03;18 - 00;41;07;04
So now every single time
anything happens, we're like, is this it?

00;41;07;29 - 00;41;08;12
Yeah.

00;41;08;12 - 00;41;11;12
Is this going
to take her out anyway? Yeah,

00;41;12;16 - 00;41;14;19
yeah. Um,

00;41;16;07 - 00;41;20;20
yes. So this relating back to figuring out
that Tiffany was

00;41;20;20 - 00;41;24;29
the one who put Nick in prison,
this is a big subplot to is

00;41;25;21 - 00;41;29;07
while Nick was in prison,
Tiffany has started visiting him

00;41;29;20 - 00;41;34;16
and he at first was like, you know
poop you I don't wanna talk to you.

00;41;35;01 - 00;41;40;02
But eventually, you know,
they started talking, communicating

00;41;40;02 - 00;41;43;10
through books and like relating
they became really good friends.

00;41;44;03 - 00;41;46;15
And she ended up leaving Nick

00;41;46;15 - 00;41;50;15
a bunch of bearer bonds
worth about 5 million, I think it was.

00;41;51;05 - 00;41;54;14
But she left him a hard drive

00;41;54;23 - 00;41;59;24
full of information on the Hudsons,
all of their dirty business.

00;41;59;25 - 00;42;04;11
However, the problem was
there's a lot of holes missing

00;42;04;25 - 00;42;09;12
in all of the different info
and like they needed more.

00;42;09;12 - 00;42;10;17
But it was a good starting point.

00;42;10;17 - 00;42;13;12
It was a starting point
to taking down the Hudsons.

00;42;13;12 - 00;42;16;26
And we'll talk more about the Hudsons,
who they are

00;42;16;26 - 00;42;18;26
and why everyone wants to take them down
later.

00;42;19;23 - 00;42;23;03
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um,

00;42;24;23 - 00;42;26;28
I, it's isn't really a point.

00;42;27;05 - 00;42;28;03
It kind of is a point.

00;42;28;03 - 00;42;31;21
I don't really know how to label this,
but a big thing throughout is like

00;42;31;21 - 00;42;35;06
paranormal things do keep happening
like just, not just

00;42;35;23 - 00;42;37;26
is it paranormal like it really is.

00;42;37;26 - 00;42;41;27
And Nancy's
not the only person being haunted

00;42;41;27 - 00;42;45;22
interacting with these paranormal things,
because if it was just Nancy,

00;42;46;02 - 00;42;49;05
then it could be like,
okay, she's dealing with trauma

00;42;49;21 - 00;42;52;12
and it's all in her head, but

00;42;53;14 - 00;42;57;28
everyone else goes through these
and is introduced to these events.

00;42;57;28 - 00;43;02;02
And so it's it's
clearly not just Nancy thing.

00;43;03;18 - 00;43;04;22
Right? Right.

00;43;04;22 - 00;43;05;22
Yeah. Yeah.

00;43;05;22 - 00;43;08;14
So, yeah, Tiffany's
ghost keeps lashing out at bess and george

00;43;08;14 - 00;43;13;03
Lucy, I think, is the big one who's haunting nan-.

00;43;13;04 - 00;43;14;16
I don't know if I want to call it
haunting.

00;43;14;16 - 00;43;16;28
I don't feel like they're necessarily
haunting them.

00;43;16;28 - 00;43;19;10
They're definitely like hey yo, I'm here.

00;43;19;10 - 00;43;23;08
Well, Lucy, definitely haunts a variety
of other people and harms them.

00;43;23;13 - 00;43;24;27
Oh, that's definitely for sure.

00;43;24;27 - 00;43;28;00
Lucy definitely haunts other people,
but I feel like haunting

00;43;28;00 - 00;43;31;01
has a negative connotation,
so I don't know if I'd say she is haunting

00;43;31;01 - 00;43;34;29
Nancy, even though I guess
technically semantics of why she was

00;43;34;29 - 00;43;38;12
But yes, she was hanging around, Nancy,

00;43;39;12 - 00;43;42;00
and trying to guide her towards the truth.

00;43;42;21 - 00;43;46;14
And when she would reveal herself
to other people, like to Ryan Hudson,

00;43;46;29 - 00;43;49;26
then she was either

00;43;49;26 - 00;43;53;11
trying to harm him or scare him or,

00;43;54;14 - 00;43;56;28
you know, otherwise interact with him.

00;43;57;16 - 00;44;00;15
So that was more and more on the haunting,
spooky side.

00;44;02;06 - 00;44;02;24
Yeah.

00;44;03;04 - 00;44;05;27
Yeah, yes.

00;44;06;12 - 00;44;10;25
But I wanted to mention it because it did
lead to, I think, kind of a key thing.

00;44;10;25 - 00;44;13;27
And what is a foundation block for

00;44;13;27 - 00;44;15;07
all subsequent seasons?

00;44;15;07 - 00;44;16;06
Two is

00;44;17;01 - 00;44;18;29
one, the paranormal is real

00;44;18;29 - 00;44;21;14
and it brings in George's mom.

00;44;21;25 - 00;44;23;19
And as her mom comes in

00;44;23;19 - 00;44;26;21
and they start dealing with ghosts,
they start doing trickle effects.

00;44;26;21 - 00;44;27;29
Like as they interact

00;44;27;29 - 00;44;31;17
more with paranormal, it causes
more things to happen down the line.

00;44;31;25 - 00;44;34;29
And then there's consequences
from the different things they do.

00;44;34;29 - 00;44;37;25
So yes, um.

00;44;38;20 - 00;44;43;01
Yeah, they have a séance
and basically it allows a whole bunch

00;44;43;01 - 00;44;47;02
of other spirits
to start affecting things and

00;44;48;01 - 00;44;49;02
somewhat weakens

00;44;49;02 - 00;44;52;25
the barrier
between the spirit world in some ways.

00;44;52;25 - 00;44;57;21
And so lots more things start happening
after that séance

00;44;58;09 - 00;45;00;24
and they only do the séance because

00;45;00;28 - 00;45;03;27
Lucy kind of

00;45;03;27 - 00;45;05;12
wanders off from Nancy.

00;45;05;12 - 00;45;09;06
And so Nancy is trying to - or is Nancy
trying to get a hold of Tiffany?

00;45;09;26 - 00;45;11;13
I don't know. She's trying to get a hold.

00;45;11;13 - 00;45;15;01
I think she's trying to get a hold of Lucy
because Lucy's gone...

00;45;15;01 - 00;45;16;04
Well what séance are we talking about?

00;45;16;04 - 00;45;16;24
The first is.

00;45;16;24 - 00;45;19;03
There's a lot of different ones
that happened.

00;45;19;19 - 00;45;23;09
The very first one, they did it
because Lucy had stopped

00;45;23;09 - 00;45;25;26
talking to Nancy and Nancy was like.

00;45;26;12 - 00;45;27;22
I need to get her back? 
Wait

00;45;27;22 - 00;45;31;04
So are we talking about the medium
or we're not talking about the medium?

00;45;31;09 - 00;45;32;15
No, not the medium.

00;45;32;15 - 00;45;35;21
The um the séance they did
in the claw with the.

00;45;35;21 - 00;45;42;23
Coins? Is this just before or after the coins.

00;45;42;23 - 00;45;46;09
If you guys haven't figured this out,
this show was very complicated.

00;45;47;16 - 00;45;48;06
You're probably right.

00;45;48;06 - 00;45;50;20
It probably was that séance.

00;45;50;20 - 00;45;53;26
Regardless, once they start dabbling,
they keep dabbling.

00;45;53;26 - 00;45;59;29
And then the things they're doing
cause subsequent and future issues

00;46;00;09 - 00;46;04;08
because they essentially they open
the door, you know, they let it through.

00;46;04;08 - 00;46;06;08
And now it keeps coming after.

00;46;06;08 - 00;46;08;27
George gets possessed by Tiffany.

00;46;08;27 - 00;46;11;01
And then this is what happens.

00;46;11;07 - 00;46;16;08
George gets possessed by Tiffany,
who is so mad that

00;46;19;24 - 00;46;21;24
George was the other woman.

00;46;22;24 - 00;46;23;03
Yeah.

00;46;23;03 - 00;46;26;17
And they basically banish

00;46;26;17 - 00;46;29;00
Tiffany out of George's body.

00;46;30;03 - 00;46;32;14
And this is where
they first involve the mom,

00;46;33;11 - 00;46;37;21
and then they get some

00;46;39;04 - 00;46;43;03
they get some evidence of the Hudsons
doing bad things

00;46;43;20 - 00;46;46;00
and use that to try to

00;46;48;00 - 00;46;51;09
get Lucy back? anyway.

00;46;52;21 - 00;46;53;15
Yeah.

00;46;53;25 - 00;46;54;13
Yeah.

00;46;55;02 - 00;47;00;12
So then, um, we have,

00;47;00;12 - 00;47;03;24
this is also a kind of key story point.

00;47;03;24 - 00;47;06;21
It's kind of about, I dunno

00;47;06;22 - 00;47;08;18
It's just important.

00;47;08;18 - 00;47;11;03
Ryan's mother, Celia

00;47;11;11 - 00;47;14;07
Hudson, was having an affair
with Sebastian Marvin.

00;47;14;22 - 00;47;18;26
And it's kind of a sub thing of
that is Sebastian

00;47;19;06 - 00;47;23;25
did later on, die on a ship
that was sank, which had a bunch of key

00;47;23;25 - 00;47;27;26
artifacts of the Hudson's and like
had a bunch of their it was it was money.

00;47;27;26 - 00;47;28;26
It was liquid affairs.

00;47;28;26 - 00;47;30;28
It had a bunch of artifacts on it.

00;47;30;28 - 00;47;35;23
And so that the sinking of that ship
led to a lot of people dying.

00;47;36;06 - 00;47;42;06
And so there was a lot of spirit energy
basically attached to the things that were

00;47;43;05 - 00;47;45;08
supposed to be on that ship.

00;47;46;02 - 00;47;49;08
Here's where I have an issue with that,
because, yes,

00;47;49;08 - 00;47;52;26
I don't know how the spirits weren't near
the artifacts.

00;47;53;08 - 00;47;55;22
The artifacts were already
they weren't on the ship.

00;47;57;01 - 00;48;01;05
So why are the spirits
attached to the artifacts?

00;48;01;05 - 00;48;04;03
Because there was prior
a lot of the artifacts were old,

00;48;04;03 - 00;48;07;07
ancient things, things that were bad,
like the coins.

00;48;07;07 - 00;48;08;23
The coins are from the ship.

00;48;08;23 - 00;48;11;28
The coins had essentially Spirit's
stuff trapped in them.

00;48;11;28 - 00;48;12;24
So it's not because the.

00;48;12;24 - 00;48;15;08
But the coins weren't on the ship.

00;48;15;08 - 00;48;15;28
Yes, they were.

00;48;15;28 - 00;48;18;02
They were part of the shipment.

00;48;18;02 - 00;48;20;04
They are part of what was on the ship.

00;48;20;04 - 00;48;22;24
The ship didn't actually sink
with all the artifacts.

00;48;23;06 - 00;48;26;00
The Hudsons have all of this stuff
that was on the ship.

00;48;26;05 - 00;48;26;21
Right.

00;48;26;21 - 00;48;31;10
So when the ship sank,
the artifacts weren't on the ship?

00;48;32;22 - 00;48;33;13
I don't think.

00;48;33;13 - 00;48;36;08
So. Why are the spirits
attached to the artifacts?

00;48;37;10 - 00;48;39;14
Because was prior to that?

00;48;39;14 - 00;48;42;02
In what spirits are we talking about.

00;48;42;02 - 00;48;45;14
On the boat?

00;48;45;14 - 00;48;48;11
We don't deal
with any of the ghost spirits.

00;48;48;16 - 00;48;50;13
We don't deal with.

00;48;50;20 - 00;48;55;05
Um, like Sebastian.

00;48;55;05 - 00;49;01;23
Marvin didn't have a ghost and stuff.

00;49;01;23 - 00;49;02;18
Okay.

00;49;02;23 - 00;49;05;20
I think I thought that the

00;49;05;20 - 00;49;09;03
all the sailors who died,

00;49;09;03 - 00;49;13;10
I thought it was their spirits
that were attached to the coins.

00;49;13;11 - 00;49;15;14
And that's why
there was so much spiritual energy.

00;49;15;14 - 00;49;16;29
No, no.

00;49;16;29 - 00;49;19;16
The coins are evil.
The coins are pure evil.

00;49;19;16 - 00;49;22;14
They attract the evilest of the evil.

00;49;22;15 - 00;49;28;07
It's not the sailors like the coins were
like that prior to anything that happened.

00;49;28;07 - 00;49;31;27
They just happened to be one of the
precious artifacts that the Hudsons owned.

00;49;31;27 - 00;49;38;04
And the Hudsons owned
a lot of precious spiritual artifacts.

00;49;38;04 - 00;49;41;04
Okay, perfect. Yeah. Carry on. Okay, sorry.

00;49;41;19 - 00;49;43;27
I was confused. I see what you're saying.

00;49;44;04 - 00;49;44;22
I get it.

00;49;46;01 - 00;49;48;24
I guess I could see why you would think
that.

00;49;48;24 - 00;49;51;10
At least that was my understanding.

00;49;51;10 - 00;49;54;20
It was like the sailors weren't evil,
like they sure they died.

00;49;54;20 - 00;49;56;08
They're probably some angry spirits.

00;49;56;08 - 00;49;59;22
But the way George's mom talks about them
and how they work

00;49;59;22 - 00;50;02;03
and why they attract stuff is like.

00;50;03;00 - 00;50;06;22
Like that's what they were,
you know, like that's yeah, I.

00;50;06;22 - 00;50;09;25
Guess we'll talk about this
when we talk about characters but

00;50;10;28 - 00;50;14;06
yeah, the Hudson matriarch

00;50;14;06 - 00;50;17;25
and then the Marvin patriarch
who have an affair.

00;50;18;07 - 00;50;22;09
Um, that's a very key piece of this puzzle

00;50;23;03 - 00;50;25;18
because they are basically mob families

00;50;25;23 - 00;50;29;00
or they're very wealthy families
in the area who are basically,

00;50;29;17 - 00;50;34;29
you know, business associates that also
don't like each other and are feuding.

00;50;34;29 - 00;50;37;00
And it's a whole thing.

00;50;37;00 - 00;50;38;28
Yeah. Yes.

00;50;40;01 - 00;50;40;12
I say

00;50;40;12 - 00;50;43;11
we're more like mafia level, to be honest.

00;50;43;23 - 00;50;45;22
Yeah, yeah.

00;50;45;22 - 00;50;48;18
So then another

00;50;48;22 - 00;50;50;13
key plot point or more like

00;50;50;13 - 00;50;54;09
story point like the last one is, um,

00;50;54;20 - 00;50;57;10
and this is also kind of
I include, this is in

00;50;57;10 - 00;51;01;17
more of also found in a foundation
block for future things too

00;51;01;17 - 00;51;05;15
not just season one is- so Bess is a Marvin
she did actually turn out to be a marvin

00;51;05;15 - 00;51;10;05
she took a DNA test with Owen
and Aunt Diana.

00;51;10;05 - 00;51;13;05
Oh and the cute Marvin, who keeps flirting with Nancy

00;51;13;29 - 00;51;17;00
much to Ned's chagrin

00;51;17;00 - 00;51;19;11
Yeah. Yeah.

00;51;19;12 - 00;51;23;21
So Aunt Diana is the matriarch of
the Marvin now

00;51;23;21 - 00;51;25;23
She is the head.

00;51;25;23 - 00;51;27;06
She totally brings Bess.

00;51;27;06 - 00;51;29;15
And she's like, Yes, Bess.

00;51;29;15 - 00;51;31;20
Um, and is all for Bess

00;51;31;20 - 00;51;34;03
However,
the key thing of - Aunt Diana is scary.

00;51;34;03 - 00;51;36;27
Okay. Aunt Diana is *scary*.

00;51;37;09 - 00;51;40;27
She is all nice and happy
until you do something that is not

00;51;40;27 - 00;51;44;09
what she thinks you should be doing
or she'll be upset.

00;51;44;09 - 00;51;48;16
And if she gets angry or upset,
like you will be punished.

00;51;48;26 - 00;51;51;08
You will be cold shouldered. You are.

00;51;51;14 - 00;51;53;00
Things will happen.

00;51;53;00 - 00;51;55;19
You will d*e a social de*th.

00;51;55;19 - 00;51;57;20
You really will

00;51;57;20 - 00;52;02;29
And a monetary de*th to
because she controls all the money.

00;52;02;29 - 00;52;05;06
And and then we also have

00;52;06;05 - 00;52;09;23
Lisbeth who is Bess's love interest
and she's important

00;52;09;23 - 00;52;13;20
because she is an undercover cop
and she is there to bust Everett.

00;52;13;20 - 00;52;17;27
So she is working
as like a driver for the Hudsons

00;52;18;19 - 00;52;21;02
and I feel like she was definitely high
up there

00;52;21;02 - 00;52;23;10
for kind of a key suspect of like

00;52;24;16 - 00;52;26;03
what went on with everything.

00;52;26;03 - 00;52;28;13
So that's an important thing to remember.

00;52;28;13 - 00;52;30;09
And we're talking about stuff.

00;52;30;09 - 00;52;34;10
Um, so kind of,

00;52;34;27 - 00;52;38;13
I think the juice of the plot
and what we'll be referring back

00;52;38;14 - 00;52;39;21
to when we go over the characters

00;52;39;21 - 00;52;43;15
and stuff is so
Ryan had a secret relationship with Lucy.

00;52;43;29 - 00;52;45;19
They were

00;52;46;07 - 00;52;48;25
lovers back in the day in high school,

00;52;49;05 - 00;52;54;07
and he took her to the Velvet Mask,
which is a super,

00;52;54;24 - 00;52;57;13
super underground

00;52;57;13 - 00;52;59;14
party for the super wealthy,

00;53;00;07 - 00;53;02;23
very hush hush Illuminati kind of thing.

00;53;03;14 - 00;53;07;16
And if I remember right
when he brought her to the velvet

00;53;07;16 - 00;53;10;21
mask, she like was,
I think, upset or something.

00;53;10;21 - 00;53;14;24
She ran off and unintentionally

00;53;14;24 - 00;53;18;24
hears/sees the affair
going on between Celia and Sebastian.

00;53;18;24 - 00;53;23;03
So I made note of that earlier and, um.

00;53;24;08 - 00;53;25;29
Celia knows,

00;53;25;29 - 00;53;28;17
She found out, right? Like,
or was there.

00;53;28;22 - 00;53;29;04
Yeah. Yeah.

00;53;29;04 - 00;53;31;03
We see a vision of Celia.

00;53;31;03 - 00;53;33;15
Like, grabbing.

00;53;33;15 - 00;53;35;18
Oh, that's right
and just being like,

00;53;35;28 - 00;53;38;00
you are never going to speak about this.

00;53;39;00 - 00;53;39;13
Yeah.

00;53;39;13 - 00;53;42;26
So threatening her, basically. Yes.

00;53;42;26 - 00;53;45;11
And then a subsequent

00;53;45;11 - 00;53;48;04
part of that is

00;53;48;04 - 00;53;51;28
Ryan's parents
obviously didn't approve of Lucy.

00;53;51;28 - 00;53;53;06
They wanted him well.

00;53;53;06 - 00;53;57;05
They didn't approve of Lucy
because they didn't want her to tell

00;53;58;21 - 00;54;01;20
Ryan or anyone about affair.

00;54;02;03 - 00;54;03;25
Everett didn't know.

00;54;03;25 - 00;54;05;22
That's why Celia didn't like her.

00;54;05;22 - 00;54;06;12
Yeah.

00;54;06;29 - 00;54;10;11
But Everett didn't like her because

00;54;10;11 - 00;54;12;20
obviously, why would Ryan be marrying that?

00;54;12;20 - 00;54;14;11
You know, he's a high socialite.

00;54;14;11 - 00;54;16;01
He should be marrying a high socialite.

00;54;16;01 - 00;54;18;26
I think Celia was pulling
a lot of those strings and was

00;54;19;20 - 00;54;22;26
just in his ear, just being like,
no, that girl is bad news

00;54;22;26 - 00;54;28;15
I mean, she definitely could have been, but
but how Everett was and how Everett ran

00;54;28;15 - 00;54;31;10
the business, he definitely wouldn't
have approved of her anyways.

00;54;31;21 - 00;54;34;10
Like he definitely,
I think would have been pushing Ryan

00;54;35;02 - 00;54;37;13
to marry
who he thought he should be marrying

00;54;38;17 - 00;54;41;09
because Celia and Everett, I 

00;54;41;09 - 00;54;45;19
don't think originally loved each other
when they were married.

00;54;46;05 - 00;54;47;24
Like they were not going to.

00;54;47;24 - 00;54;49;12
It was a business relationship

00;54;49;12 - 00;54;51;09
Yeah. Yes.

00;54;51;09 - 00;54;52;24
So they, they didn't approve.

00;54;52;24 - 00;54;54;26
They wanted Lucy gone.

00;54;54;26 - 00;54;58;27
Um, but Ryan.

00;54;58;27 - 00;54;59;23
Ryan loved her.

00;54;59;23 - 00;55;02;26
Like, Ryan genuinely loved her,
not just like the high school fling

00;55;02;26 - 00;55;05;12
kind of thing,
which is actually really touching.

00;55;06;04 - 00;55;06;15
I know.

00;55;06;15 - 00;55;08;29
I think that gave his character a lot of depth

00;55;08;29 - 00;55;11;10
Yeah, yes.

00;55;12;05 - 00;55;13;12
I have to say, I wasn't shocked.

00;55;13;12 - 00;55;15;24
I kind of saw that coming.

00;55;15;24 - 00;55;18;09
Him actually loving her. Mm.

00;55;18;09 - 00;55;20;00
Oh, no, I agree. I agree.

00;55;20;00 - 00;55;22;20
I just think, though, that, like,

00;55;22;20 - 00;55;25;22
if they hadn't have done that,

00;55;26;01 - 00;55;26;11
I don't know.

00;55;26;11 - 00;55;28;28
I think it made his character strong.
He had more depth.

00;55;29;06 - 00;55;33;04
You saw more compassion and like
actual genuine emotion out of him.

00;55;33;04 - 00;55;34;27
Like,
I thought that was an important thing.

00;55;34;27 - 00;55;37;14
Definitely. Um,

00;55;39;21 - 00;55;42;27
and then kind of the next big thing,
and this is kind of

00;55;42;27 - 00;55;46;22
what will get us from season
one to season two is the Aglaeca

00;55;46;29 - 00;55;50;02
They seek out the Aglaeca to help clear

00;55;50;02 - 00;55;52;04
Carson's name because Carson,

00;55;53;14 - 00;55;57;02
by the end, is the one where the cops
are like, You're the one who killed

00;55;57;12 - 00;56;01;12
Lucy because they found Nancy's
notebook and all of her other suspicions

00;56;01;12 - 00;56;03;18
Nancy was very suspicious of her dad

00;56;03;18 - 00;56;08;05
because of the digging up of the dress
and the hiding this thing.

00;56;08;05 - 00;56;11;24
And because he works for the Hudsons and
she is just like, well, the Hudsons wanted

00;56;14;09 - 00;56;16;19
wanted Lucy gone.

00;56;16;19 - 00;56;20;00
And so she was for part of the

00;56;20;00 - 00;56;25;02
season was convinced that it was him
and that he killed her.

00;56;25;02 - 00;56;28;10
And then she like finally realized, no,
that doesn't make sense.

00;56;28;10 - 00;56;31;23
And they had finally made up
and finally were like

00;56;31;27 - 00;56;35;29
starting to heal together
after her mom's death.

00;56;35;29 - 00;56;39;19
And then Karen and the cops show up
and they're like,

00;56;39;24 - 00;56;41;24
Yeah, we read Nancy's notebook.

00;56;41;26 - 00;56;43;14
And so we're convinced.

00;56;43;14 - 00;56;44;28
So we're going to put you in prison.

00;56;46;07 - 00;56;47;01
Yeah.

00;56;47;05 - 00;56;47;28
Yeah.

00;56;47;28 - 00;56;50;21
So they reach out to the Aglaeca

00;56;50;27 - 00;56;53;25
they ask for Lucy Sable's bones.

00;56;54;10 - 00;56;58;02
And through getting the bones,
they discover that Lucy was pregnant.

00;56;58;09 - 00;56;59;08
Yes. Yes.

00;56;59;08 - 00;57;03;06
Because Lucy had fallen off
or she had gone off the cliff.

00;57;03;06 - 00;57;04;03
Right.

00;57;04;10 - 00;57;07;14
And she had fallen into the sea.

00;57;07;14 - 00;57;09;10
And then they had never been able

00;57;09;10 - 00;57;10;04
to find her bones,

00;57;10;04 - 00;57;13;11
so they never could have figured out
what actually happened to her.

00;57;13;21 - 00;57;17;05
And so that's why her death was never,
quote unquote, solved,

00;57;18;11 - 00;57;20;20
because her bones were somewhere
lost at sea.

00;57;20;26 - 00;57;24;02
So Nancy and the gang
call down a sea ghost

00;57;24;17 - 00;57;27;16
to go and bring the bones up.

00;57;29;07 - 00;57;31;20
Yeah. Yes.

00;57;31;20 - 00;57;33;13
Um, yeah.

00;57;33;13 - 00;57;36;02
So this they discover Lucy pregnant,

00;57;37;00 - 00;57;38;24
and then

00;57;40;13 - 00;57;43;05
for whatever reason,
I don't remember why they're, like,

00;57;43;07 - 00;57;47;14
testing the blood.

00;57;47;14 - 00;57;48;15
There was a. Hair.

00;57;48;15 - 00;57;50;18
There was a hair - a hair in the crown

00;57;51;19 - 00;57;52;01
Yeah.

00;57;52;01 - 00;57;52;24
In Lucys

00;57;52;24 - 00;57;54;27
sea creen crown.

00;57;55;04 - 00;57;57;02
sea queen crown.

00;57;57;02 - 00;58;02;14
And they were testing the hair
to find out who it was because it wasn't

00;58;02;14 - 00;58;07;02
Lucy's and the forensics guy was saying,
yeah, I mean,

00;58;07;22 - 00;58;10;27
this is with her crown when she died, so.

00;58;10;29 - 00;58;11;07
Right.

00;58;11;07 - 00;58;16;23
It's the person whose hair it was was
probably the last person to see her alive.

00;58;16;23 - 00;58;18;23
And the hair ended up being Kate's.

00;58;19;23 - 00;58;20;21
Yeah, it was Nancy's moms.

00;58;20;21 - 00;58;24;27
And Nancy submitted her own hair
to test against Kate's

00;58;25;02 - 00;58;28;12
to get the DNA match
because they didn't have Kate's hair.

00;58;28;20 - 00;58;30;21
So Nancy was like,
all right, check my hair.

00;58;31;05 - 00;58;33;28
See if it was my mom who was with Lucy

00;58;34;11 - 00;58;36;28
when Lucy died.

00;58;37;12 - 00;58;38;23
Because all of a sudden,

00;58;38;23 - 00;58;42;10
Nancy started going, Wait,
my mom must be involved in this.

00;58;42;24 - 00;58;47;14
And they test the hair and dun dun dun dun!

00;58;47;14 - 00;58;48;18
Oh, yes.

00;58;48;18 - 00;58;53;20
So then what it all leads up to is
Nancy was Lucy's child.

00;58;54;00 - 00;58;56;14
So Lucy was pregnant with Nancy.

00;58;56;14 - 00;58;58;22
Um, it connects to - so Nancy

00;58;58;23 - 00;59;01;18
She had also found
Lucy's journal eventually.

00;59;02;00 - 00;59;05;05
And then the journal, you know, that's
where she really learns

00;59;05;05 - 00;59;08;26
about the love affair
between Ryan and Lucy. And

00;59;09;27 - 00;59;10;20
it was really cute.

00;59;10;20 - 00;59;12;11
It was really wholesome.

00;59;12;11 - 00;59;14;25
Like Lucy was getting hardcore

00;59;14;26 - 00;59;18;13
bullied and just because 
the hudsons were spreading

00;59;18;13 - 00;59;20;07
Rumors about her.

00;59;20;07 - 00;59;26;01
Yeah, that she was a a hoo hoo
and it was terrible.

00;59;26;01 - 00;59;29;21
So originally, Lucy had gone to the cliffs
to kill herself.

00;59;29;21 - 00;59;33;27
Like, that's why she was up there.

00;59;33;27 - 00;59;35;06
And Kate

00;59;35;20 - 00;59;39;07
Drew was Lucy's
high school guidance counselor.

00;59;39;07 - 00;59;42;05
And so they had a really strong
relationship.

00;59;42;05 - 00;59;46;19
And Lucy was telling Kate
a lot of things about,

00;59;46;19 - 00;59;49;23
you know, her life
and what was going on with her.

00;59;49;23 - 00;59;51;27
And so they had built up
a really strong connection.

00;59;53;05 - 00;59;54;26
Yeah, yeah.

00;59;54;26 - 00;59;58;05
And so I think

00;59;59;00 - 01;00;01;14
No, they just
they just happened to see Lucy.

01;00;01;14 - 01;00;04;11
She didn't call right?
Lucy called!

01;00;04;11 - 01;00;04;29
Oh she did call!
Yeah. Yeah.

01;00;04;29 - 01;00;07;19
They were doing like a picnic
on the cliffs anyway because, you know,

01;00;07;19 - 01;00;09;16
it was a big festival night. Right.

01;00;09;16 - 01;00;10;27
So they were doing a picnic.

01;00;10;27 - 01;00;13;21
Lucy called to be like, Hi,

01;00;14;29 - 01;00;16;11
I'm on the cliffs.

01;00;16;11 - 01;00;18;24
And Kate and Carson run to her.

01;00;19;03 - 01;00;23;12
Lucy gives birth at the cliffs, hands

01;00;23;12 - 01;00;28;03
the baby to Carson and Kate.

01;00;28;16 - 01;00;31;15
And then they turn around
and she is thrown herself

01;00;32;24 - 01;00;33;01
off

01;00;33;01 - 01;00;37;02
Before that, though, she's like,
make sure the Hudsons don't find her.

01;00;37;02 - 01;00;39;25
Like keep her away from the Hudsons.

01;00;39;25 - 01;00;40;21
And then, yes, right.

01;00;40;21 - 01;00;43;11
As they turn away, she throws herself off.

01;00;43;17 - 01;00;48;03
So dun dun dun technically,
Lucy did k*ll herself.

01;00;48;03 - 01;00;49;21
However,

01;00;50;06 - 01;00;52;18
there is a lot of
The town k*lled her

01;00;52;18 - 01;00;54;28
honestly, yeah, there is so much stuff

01;00;55;06 - 01;00;57;09
but it's just

01;00;57;29 - 01;01;00;16
huge huge huge sh*t show.

01;01;00;25 - 01;01;02;03
And so

01;01;02;14 - 01;01;05;22
Tiffany has started
learning all this stuff about Lucy

01;01;05;22 - 01;01;09;18
and the things that happened and how it,
how what they did to Lucy and stuff.

01;01;10;05 - 01;01;11;06
And she started learning things

01;01;11;06 - 01;01;15;02
about the Hudsons and she'd been gathering
all of that information and like.

01;01;15;07 - 01;01;17;24
But I think she was
thinking that the Hudson's.

01;01;19;00 - 01;01;22;03
Or everyone definitely thought
Celia killed Lucy.

01;01;22;14 - 01;01;22;28
Yeah.

01;01;22;28 - 01;01;25;05
Because she was like,
We got to take care of the problem.

01;01;25;13 - 01;01;28;07
And we've seen how Celia takes care
of problems.

01;01;28;26 - 01;01;32;04
So, yes, that was, I think, definitely
what Tiffany was thinking.

01;01;32;14 - 01;01;35;27
And Lucy had started,
like you were saying, haunting

01;01;37;02 - 01;01;39;10
Tiffany
Yes Lucy started haunting Tiffany.

01;01;39;10 - 01;01;40;04
Yeah.

01;01;40;06 - 01;01;44;19
And so to try to lead her
to their correct answer.

01;01;44;20 - 01;01;46;26
Which, I don't understand.

01;01;47;13 - 01;01;52;08
Lucy wanted this to stay a secret.

01;01;52;08 - 01;01;53;16
So why is she trying to solve?

01;01;53;16 - 01;01;56;01
Oh, she was trying
to bring down the Hudsons

01;01;56;01 - 01;01;58;00
because she thought Ryan had betrayed her.

01;01;58;00 - 01;01;59;18
Got it, on board

01;02;00;17 - 01;02;04;05
Yes. Tiffany was just in general
trying to take down the Hudsons.

01;02;04;05 - 01;02;06;10
I think I think that sort of started off.

01;02;06;10 - 01;02;08;05
She was like, poop, this poop.

01;02;09;20 - 01;02;11;13
We are like they need to go down.

01;02;11;13 - 01;02;15;27
And then through all of that,
you know, she ended up upon Lucy.

01;02;16;10 - 01;02;20;08
And I feel like something that is said is

01;02;20;08 - 01;02;22;25
like when you think about the dead or,
you know, like

01;02;23;27 - 01;02;27;22
thinking about them, giving them attention
strengthens them, right?

01;02;27;22 - 01;02;29;21
So maybe her starting to dig

01;02;29;21 - 01;02;33;11
and thinking about Lucy and all that
kind of woke up Lucy's spirit.

01;02;33;12 - 01;02;35;16
Lucy was like hey yo, what's going on?

01;02;36;07 - 01;02;41;10
And that was kind of how that went.

01;02;41;10 - 01;02;43;11
Are you guys confused right now?

01;02;43;19 - 01;02;46;02
Are you thinking to yourself, okay,

01;02;46;20 - 01;02;51;23
so Lucy k*lled herself,
so nobody murdered Lucy.

01;02;51;26 - 01;02;55;10
So why is Tiffany de*d?

01;02;55;10 - 01;02;57;27
We would love to tell you. Right?

01;02;58;29 - 01;03;00;12
It's so it's.

01;03;00;12 - 01;03;02;27
So, so sad, though, too.

01;03;02;27 - 01;03;05;21
So. Right.

01;03;05;21 - 01;03;09;28
Because they didn't like you're saying
they didn't find the bones of Lucy or.

01;03;09;28 - 01;03;12;05
I think it was ruled a suicide.

01;03;12;05 - 01;03;15;27
There was no foul play,
which I mean, the ruling wasn't wrong.

01;03;15;27 - 01;03;17;08
It was wrong, but it wasn't wrong.

01;03;18;10 - 01;03;19;10
So it wasn't suicide.

01;03;19;10 - 01;03;22;08
But her brother.

01;03;22;08 - 01;03;24;28
Who was Ned's boss

01;03;24;28 - 01;03;27;25
Yeah, who's Ned's boss is like,
where's the justice?

01;03;28;04 - 01;03;31;20
It was obviously Ryan like,
I know it was Ryan Hudson's fault

01;03;31;20 - 01;03;34;02
So his family was yeah, yeah.

01;03;35;02 - 01;03;35;27
Yeah.

01;03;35;27 - 01;03;38;15
And, um,

01;03;38;15 - 01;03;40;26
Lucy's
best friend in high school was Karen.

01;03;41;10 - 01;03;44;04
The cop detective who is also

01;03;45;08 - 01;03;47;18
Nancy's mom's good friend.

01;03;47;18 - 01;03;51;28
She was also like,
Where's where's the justice for Lucy?

01;03;52;09 - 01;03;55;15
So she swapped evidence.

01;03;55;15 - 01;03;57;24
She got the poison

01;03;57;29 - 01;04;00;07
from a a case about a killer

01;04;00;07 - 01;04;03;13
who'd been, you know, k*lling
different people with poison.

01;04;03;13 - 01;04;08;07
Karen got the poison
and gave it to Lucy's brother,

01;04;08;25 - 01;04;13;19
and he was going to use it to kill Ryan.

01;04;13;19 - 01;04;15;25
So he had put it

01;04;16;02 - 01;04;19;01
in the salad dressing for Ryan.

01;04;19;01 - 01;04;23;04
However, when George brought it out
to Ryan, he was like, I don't want it.

01;04;23;04 - 01;04;26;26
And then she set it on the counter
and Ace, thinking that was supposed to be for Tiffany...

01;04;27;16 - 01;04;28;26
So it was an accident

01;04;29;26 - 01;04;30;14
changed the

01;04;30;14 - 01;04;34;10
plate, it was on and like fixed it up
I think, and then gave it to Nancy.

01;04;34;10 - 01;04;38;26
Nancy brings about Tiffany and yeah.

01;04;38;26 - 01;04;40;02
Tiffany.

01;04;40;12 - 01;04;42;07
Yeah, it was all an accident.

01;04;42;07 - 01;04;45;10
However,
had they not killed her on accident

01;04;45;10 - 01;04;48;28
I do think the Hudsons would at
some point have killed her.

01;04;48;28 - 01;04;51;17
I will say.

01;04;51;17 - 01;04;56;03
Oh, so if they'd just tossed the salad.

01;04;56;03 - 01;04;58;25
Well, yes. No, I'm

01;04;59;04 - 01;05;01;25
if he was alive,
like if none of that had happened,

01;05;02;28 - 01;05;06;00
I still yeah, whatever.

01;05;06;00 - 01;05;10;09
I just think even if Ryan had died,
I wouldn't have been surprised

01;05;10;26 - 01;05;15;12
if she had been killed because Everett

01;05;15;13 - 01;05;17;12
it was definitely sus of her like Everett

01;05;17;12 - 01;05;21;02
Definitely knew
she was digging around and doing stuff.

01;05;21;02 - 01;05;23;27
So there is even a hint
at what she was doing.

01;05;24;16 - 01;05;29;01
I definitely think
you would have dispatched her.

01;05;29;01 - 01;05;29;24
Yeah.

01;05;29;26 - 01;05;30;22
So Tiffany.

01;05;30;22 - 01;05;33;22
Yes. Tiffany guys, but we're not done yet

01;05;34;24 - 01;05;37;05
with the dang season

01;05;37;05 - 01;05;41;02
because Nancy and cute Marvin, Owen

01;05;42;03 - 01;05;44;08
get together and they're like, All right,

01;05;45;01 - 01;05;49;04
we are going to leave this ding dang town.

01;05;49;04 - 01;05;50;07
There's a big.

01;05;50;07 - 01;05;52;14
Well, that's that's characters.

01;05;52;14 - 01;05;55;02
I was just trying to get all of the main plot

01;05;55;02 - 01;05;58;10
infos and I thought we could finally
deep dove into characters.

01;05;58;10 - 01;06;02;04
And but it is a main plot point
because Owen dies

01;06;02;21 - 01;06;06;20
the brother, Lucy's brother kills

01;06;06;20 - 01;06;12;25
Owen to try to get to Nancy.

01;06;12;25 - 01;06;13;12
Oh, the Aglaeca

01;06;13;12 - 01;06;15;00
didn't kill Owen.

01;06;15;00 - 01;06;17;01
No, did you watch the finale?

01;06;17;01 - 01;06;18;08
Of course I watched it.

01;06;18;08 - 01;06;20;28
You do realize how much I've watched
right?

01;06;20;28 - 01;06;23;01
You realize how much more information
I have.

01;06;23;01 - 01;06;24;19
Then I have to be careful.

01;06;24;19 - 01;06;29;14
Season So Episode 16 ends with them
being like, Well, we solved it.

01;06;29;14 - 01;06;32;18
We know who, we know
how Lucy died, we know how Tiffany died.

01;06;33;23 - 01;06;34;11
Great.

01;06;34;11 - 01;06;36;18
You think they're done?
They've got two episodes left.

01;06;36;18 - 01;06;38;04
That wasn't the finale.

01;06;38;04 - 01;06;40;22
So then they're setting up season two.

01;06;41;21 - 01;06;45;18
So basically the Aglaeca, Aglaesia?

01;06;46;24 - 01;06;48;12
Aglaeca

01;06;48;23 - 01;06;49;13
this.

01;06;49;13 - 01;06;50;27
I think it should be Aglasia, but they.

01;06;50;27 - 01;06;54;01
Sea creature,

01;06;54;01 - 01;06;59;09
they didn't fully pay the fine for her,
giving them Lucy's bones.

01;06;59;22 - 01;07;04;07
So now she's out to kill that group
who summoned her.

01;07;04;07 - 01;07;07;02
So they. Owen was part of that.

01;07;07;16 - 01;07;12;07
He dies and

01;07;13;20 - 01;07;16;17
they're trying to figure out, oh, my gosh,

01;07;16;17 - 01;07;18;18
the Agleaca killed him.

01;07;18;18 - 01;07;21;18
But then they find out, no,
it was actually a murder.

01;07;21;24 - 01;07;26;14
And so Lucy's brother had killed him and

01;07;27;15 - 01;07;31;02
trying to get him
to give up Nancy's location

01;07;31;02 - 01;07;34;19
so he could go kill her anyway.

01;07;34;19 - 01;07;38;12
And then it ends with
a, you know, a little tussle on the roof

01;07;39;12 - 01;07;40;21
where Nancy ends up

01;07;40;21 - 01;07;44;24
saving his life
and telling him that she is his niece.

01;07;44;24 - 01;07;46;29
And anyway, it's a whole thing.

01;07;46;29 - 01;07;50;00
And then they find out that the Aglaeca

01;07;52;17 - 01;07;54;09
basically was coming to all of them

01;07;54;09 - 01;07;59;18
and their lives are just going to get more
and more of a struggle every day.

01;08;00;06 - 01;08;02;13
So they have to try to get rid of her,

01;08;03;14 - 01;08;05;24
I guess. I don't know. Right.

01;08;05;24 - 01;08;06;17
So that's kind of the end.

01;08;06;17 - 01;08;09;27
Nancy was supposed to move out,
but she was

01;08;10;22 - 01;08;13;05
her kind of ticket
out of there, was murdered.

01;08;14;03 - 01;08;17;09
We finally get Lucy's brother in jail

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and the Aglaeca is still out there

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wreaking havoc. Yes.

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And that's the end of season one.

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Season one in a nutshell, pretty much the.

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Longest nutshell you've ever had.